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Oral history transcript, Horace V. (Dick) Bird, interview 1 (I), 5/16/1980, by Michael L. Gillette
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- the trip was cancelled, but do you remember the circumstances of it? B: No, but I do know that Admiral [Ernest] King, who was then our chief of naval operations, wanted to use Lyndon as much as he could on these kinds of things because Lyndon was good