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Oral history transcript, Ashton Gonella, interview 1 (I), 2/19/1969, by Dorothy Pierce (McSweeny)
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- than a hard-nosed politician who knew the ropes of getting the various commitments. M: Did it seem to you at the time that the Kennedys had already--to use the vernacular that has been expressed--had sewed up the delegates in the convention? G