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Oral history transcript, Everett McKinley Dirksen, interview 2 (II), 3/21/1969, by Joe B. Frantz
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- to that, to innovate. F: Mr. Eisenhower, as President, tried to put through an aid-to-education bill without success. Mr. Kennedy tried, too. Why do you think that it finally came through then under Mr. Johnson? D: Well, you see that fear that I alluded