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Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 17 (XVII), 1/5/1988, by Michael L. Gillette
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- card and burn it but it wasn't a draft card. It would be a Xerox copy of a draft card because they didn't want to get in trouble. But Hershey was--he was somebody you couldn't talk to. He was terribly out of touch. He'd become not quite J. Edgar Hoover