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Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 5 (V), 9/12/1969, by Joe B. Frantz and Paige E. Mulhollan (Item)
  • force report was a thoughtful way; they just said there ought to be a department of transportation. The Hoover Commission had recommended it. Eisenhower in one message recommended it, as I recall. I then had a meeting with Charlie Schultze, and Secretary