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  • enthusiastic about the Diem regime than Kennedy was. Did you get that feeling at all? T: Well, I suppose it might be a by-product of--this has just occurred to me, I hadn't thought about it in those terms--what you might call LBJ Presidential Library http
  • the commitment of American combat troops. G: Even before the end of 1963, there was contemplation of pulling out a thousand troops. M: That's right. did. Mr. Kennedy announced that, the Kennedy Administration I can't remember whether it was McNamara
  • operate, and it's through these sources that one can develop countermeasures. G: I understand. I believe Secretary [Robert] McNamara testified later before one of the Senate committees that he regarded this as a routine patrol. Some people think
  • ; discussions on Vietnam; LBJ and Vietnam; incidents preceding and following Gulf of Tonkin incident; Robert McNamara; use of intelligence support
  • , and I was a speech writer and there wasn't anything much lower than a speech writer. (Laughter) But I have come on to much more exalted planes. Now, in this library there are some forty some million papers and they are very--I think Mr. [Robert "Bob
  • there. When you worked in the jungle, you had to put this, that, infiltration and all the rest, cutting off food and whatnot. I had a pretty good idea of what--and I knew [Sir Robert] Thompson down there, too, who set up their whole operation, came up
  • that there ought to be a study of the offices overseas. study. functio~ of cultural affairs The Brookings Institution was asked to perform this The State Department and I think the White House under the Kennedy Administration w"ere very interested
  • McGovern, and Robert McClory; Fulbright and the Fulbright Program; political pressures and the Board of Foreign Scholarships; the Sterling Tucker appointment; cultural exchange programs; cultural exchanges and the CIA; Anthony Solomon; Dean Rusk
  • Maxwell Taylor visited Vietnam in order to report to President Kennedy just a few months before you were assigned to Saigon. Did you have a chance to talk to him on his way back? H: Well, yes, we had him out to dinner, as a matter of fact, and he didn't
  • TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] atmosphere. More on LBJ Library oral histories: http://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh And you know there's that famous quote of Kennedy putting more weight on the New York Times
  • know, counterinsurgency was stylish, and Brute [Victor] Krulak, the marine, had a similar position on the Joint Staff. Same one I had much later. So the army was very anxious to get in the act and do the right things, and the Kennedys were pressing hard
  • of peopl e. Two peopl e who worked on the Hill supposedly informed LBJ of it, Bob Jackson and Arthur Perry, I think. Did you ever talk to them about it? C: No. G: How about Dr. Bob Montgomery, Robert Montgomery, an economics professor at the University
  • of thing that he and I would talk about. He never asked my advice on policy. Hell, he had four- star generals, and had [Robert] McNamara and later--what's his name?-Clark Clifford came in as secretary of defense. that he asked for advice about policy
  • ://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh 6 K: I suppose when they sent the bill up. M: Did you have any conversations before that? K: No. M: I believe, and please correct me if I am mistaken-- K: We were, by the way, never able to get President Kennedy's
  • . It was for one of his periodic visits. I think he was with [Robert] McNamara on that particular visit. And as was the custom--I'd done this in the past with Bob Manning and others who came out--I got some of the key press together with him. It was supposed
  • Civil Rights Bill of 1964; LBJ calls Pickle to commend him on his vote; Pickle votes against open housing; Pickle as "President Johnson's Congressman;" Robert Poage and Williamson County; regrets voting against open housing; LBJ, Yarborough
  • don't need to do more than sort of place it as part of the backdrop, because this stuff was going up all the time in draft form, but this was typical of President Johnson's period as of President Kennedy's before it--that a great deal of the most
  • . And the atmosphere is very unhealthy. During this period, Robert Ingersoll has been appointed Ambassadorto Japan and will be going out next week. Whenit becameclear that, oh, last suR1T1er, almost a year ago, that we probably should change ambassadors in Japan, our
  • meant Kennedy. When he talked about his conversation with Dean, you knew it was Rusk. When he talked about anybody in any position at all, he used nicknames and first names, and I think he had the chief justice of the Supreme Court that came out
  • became president, Lord only knows what sort of commitments he knew of that we, the public, had no idea about, as a carryover from John F. Kennedy. But he must have had some. He certainly didn't feel free to clean his house and start over with his own
  • vantage point there . O: The 1960 convention, of course, was held in Los Angeles . I was a delegate to the convention from Massachusetts as a delegate for Jack Kennedy . campaign . I had been an advance man on the Kennedy came out with a real
  • 1960 election; the Kennedys; relationship with LBJ; Massachusetts politics; Vietnam War; comparison of JFK and LBJ; Education bill; LBJ's persuasive ability
  • stockpile, and President Kennedy had asked the Senate to have an investigation, specifically he had asked Symington who was chairman of the Stockpile Subcommittee of the Senate Armed Services Committee. Symington asked Kennedy to send someone up
  • for LBJ; comparison of the White House social life of the Kennedys and the Johnsons; Kappel Commission and reorganization of the Post Office; defection of top level appointees regarding Vietnam policy; Larry O’Brien’s opposition to Vietnam policy
  • the election of 1960, when all four of us went into the government. F: Yes. M: So I became involved in politics really through Governor Stevenson, and then to the Kennedys. F: How far back does you acquaintance with--I don't know which title to give him
  • Biographical information; meeting LBJ in 1955 on a visit to the Ranch; 1956 Democratic Convention; Stevenson/Kennedy campaign; Democratic Advisory Committee; 1960 convention and Stevenson’s hope for nomination; JFK’s consultation with Stevenson
  • . Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] More on LBJ Library oral histories: http://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh L. Marks--II--5 The bill passed the House, and President Kennedy signed it into law. ceremony. I was privileged to be invited
  • Carolina during his campaign for the PreSidency after he succeeded President Kennedy. Now I had been in his company a number of times with the North Carolina delegation, I think. We had conferred with him in con- nection with some matters affecting
  • it was not that favorable that he was considered in 1960, for instance. candidate for President. He was not considered by our people as the ideal You know, he was a candidate in 1960, and of course lost out in the convention to John F. Kennedy. When he was selected
  • First meeting LBJ; Labor’s opinion of LBJ in the Senate and support of Kennedy-Johnson ticket; LBJ as VP active on the Space Council; Landrum-Griffin Bill; talk with LBJ after the JFK assassination; LBJ’s legislative record; influence of organized
  • that time in which you're beginning to think about, 1960, and it shows John F. Kennedy with the controversial issue of labor, and Stuart Symington with the controversial issue of certain armed forces propositions, and Lyndon Johnson
  • been director of the I & R [Intelligence and Research] from the beginning of the Kennedy Administration until 1963? H: Right. M: So you served about a year in the Far East post. H: Just a little over. M: Did you know Mr. Johnson at all prior
  • , the later one? F: No, I attended the national convention in Chicago in 1960 when Kennedy was nominated. That's the only one I ever attended. I never LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library
  • ://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh January 26, 1971 M: You are Judge Anthony Celebrezze, and your connection with the Johnson Administration was as Secretary of Health, Education and Welfare, which you had actually undertaken in 1962 under President Kennedy
  • contact after this? R: Here was a great change for me. For one thing, like many others, I had been much taken by Mr. Kennedy's personality and capacity to put things in verbal forms. It was inspiring. I think my wife even more so; she had been so
  • by focusing on your experiences from 1961 to 1965, serving both under President Johnson and President Kennedy. You were appointed the Director of the Bureau of the Census in 1961. S: Yes. G: This is a political appointment? S: Yes
  • and that he would stand by these principles that he hoo practiced and expoused (sic) for so many years. B: Did you participate in the 1960 presidential campaign, sir? M: Yes, sir, I did. B: Did you campaign for the Kennedy-Johnson ticket? M: No, sir, I
  • the originator, or were you in on the beginning of the socalled Troika and the Quadriad? H: Yes. Let me tell you a little about that. Again, I may not have the exact dates, but these can be checked out from the memos in the Kennedy period. We, fairly early
  • after Johnson and Rayburn 8 The transition from Kennedy to Johnson as President LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] Oral History Collection Tape Index
  • which would prove to our ultimate disadvantage. Now my position was public, was well known. When President Kennedy sent an emissary to me to ask that I remain on as chairman of the Atomic Energy Commission, I could immediately see that having me
  • , and '64 into '68 I was middle level, and then became a top Troika man in '68-'69 . The Troika was really a Kennedy Administration innovation . I think it was a very important innovation because it put things on a regular review basis, which had never
  • and 1960, when names of Democratic President candidates were mentioned, that Mr. Johnson's name was always conspicuous. M: What was your assessment of the 1960 election, since it was such a close race between John Kennedy and Richard Nixon? A: Of course
  • ; contact with LBJ and White House staff; Vietnam; Johnson Administration legislative briefings; the Pueblo incident; reflections on LBJ in various situations; comparison and evaluation of the Eisenhower, Kennedy and Johnson administrations