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  • great knowledge of political affairs and things generally in the country. And then I remember a situation developed after he and Lady Bird had gone on back. I watched her taking a few notes and listening most intently while he was talking freely
  • Administration at all on any of this conservation? H: No. F: H: F: Not with Lady Bird? No. Mrs. Hoffman did. I didn't. You urged in '68 the doubling of aid from the rich nations. What kind of reception did you get to. that? I don't know about aid generally
  • and the newspapers. So Lady Bird and Johnson, any time one of them came to town, they were treated like royalty. So they sort of denutted poor old Shivers because they took away his strength. I mean, if Shivers doesn't have the support of the Fort Worth paper
  • friendship with Mr. Johnson and with Lady Bird. F: This is rather subjective, but in 1953 he had just been chosen minority leader, a rather junior person really. H: That's right. -- . :t LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY