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Oral history transcript, Lawrence F. O'Brien, interview 14 (XIV), 9/11/1986, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • with immediately." Because there was no way that I could carry on this conversation with Mary McGrory. So I got rid of her and I closed the office door and buzzed Phyllis Maddock, now Nason, my long-time assistant. I said to her, "The President said he's naming me