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  • of country for about two and a half weeks. I went from Rome back to Washington; as I mentioned earlier, I arrived there the day of the assassination of President Kennedy in Dallas. Then I went back via the Far East, stopped off and saw our embassy
  • Returning to Saigon following the JFK assassination; Robert McNamara’s December 1963 visit to Vietnam; January 1964 Khanh coup and alleged French involvement; what the French might have wished for Vietnam; Christmas 1964 in Dalat; Tran Van Don; Le
  • a terrible commentary. P: Anyhow, on the way back, I was flown to Honolulu to participate in one of [Robert] McNamara's big flying circuses. G: Of 1962? P: 1962, yes. This was August, I think. And I was asked to give a brief presentation of what we
  • : You've got a problem. Back under Kennedy, you plugged for a cut in taxes to stimulate the economy. Now then you are starting to plug for a tax increase to slow down the economy. A: Right. F: In both cases you are delayed because of the political
  • ; Pierre Renfret; rumors of recession, 1966-1967; Ford strike, 1967; Ackley's resignation and subsequent ambassadorship to Italy; transition to Nixon Administration; Robert McNamara; balance of payments problem; Charles de Gaulle
  • : Oh, yes. M: Irreconcilable ones that just couldn't be compromised? T: Yes, we had several issues of that kind. For instance, the Kennedy round, when the deadline on June 30 of 1967 of the Kennedy round came along. We were up all night long
  • informational; explaining Vietnam policy across the country; Interagency Committee structure; Balance of Payments Committee; Kennedy Round; Relations with the Budget Bureau and the Council of Economic Advisors; LBJ’s relationship with businessmen; Sidney
  • quite good. There had been a conscious decision with Kennedy to try to work with him and not try to exert great pressures on him and to encourage him rather than to leverage LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT
  • Kennedy sent for me and I was told that they had made a mistake . They had thought any one of the assistants was qualified, but Mr . Bishop's assignment had had nothing to do with day-to-day operation of the Department . After Mr . Brawley left Mr . Day
  • 30 minute interview with LBJ on appointment as Deputy Postmaster General; contact with Senator Kennedy about congressional retirement program; background of appointment as Assistant Postmaster General for Operations (congressional endorsements
  • to contend that we were victims of disinformation, because it was coupled with a longer article by Robert Elegant about the failures of the media in Vietnam. Incidentally, I disagree very strongly with his thesis, but I think that was part of the reason why
  • , Robert Kennedy, had sent him a book in which he had marked a passage saying, "this might be of interest to you ." BA : Yes, I've seen references to that ; it's references to one of Bruce Catton's books on the Civil War, I believe
  • of the Senate as Vice President at the time my confirmation hearing came up, and he noticed my name on the calendar. That afternoon, after the confirmation hearing, I was in the office of Robert Giaimo, the Democratic congressman from my Connecticut district
  • ; naming the 1st model cities; working with the White House as LBJ’s power waned; Robert Wood; Vietnam’s effect on domestic spending; problems with progressing from plans to action; difficulty with appropriation of funds; working in cooperation
  • we're talking about now. F: Right. P: The farm-to-market roads, they were beginning to talk about them but not do anything about them. You see, the Highway Commission had just been formed with Robert Hubbard as chairman, and they were not too active
  • somebody who concentrated on Vietnam and another chap who concentrated on Asian problems outside of Vietnam. [Robert] Komer had responsibility for the Middle East, South Asia, and Africa. M: Corresponds to the ANE bureau in the State Department. C
  • Biographical information; McGeorge Bundy; William Bundy; Robert Komer; Vietnam; Bien Hoa; service on high-level review committee on Vietnam; Pleiku incident; Honolulu Conference; Ky; bombing halt; Harriman; Wilson; J. Blair Seaborn mission, 1964
  • enthusiastic about the Diem regime than Kennedy was. Did you get that feeling at all? T: Well, I suppose it might be a by-product of--this has just occurred to me, I hadn't thought about it in those terms--what you might call LBJ Presidential Library http
  • the commitment of American combat troops. G: Even before the end of 1963, there was contemplation of pulling out a thousand troops. M: That's right. did. Mr. Kennedy announced that, the Kennedy Administration I can't remember whether it was McNamara
  • operate, and it's through these sources that one can develop countermeasures. G: I understand. I believe Secretary [Robert] McNamara testified later before one of the Senate committees that he regarded this as a routine patrol. Some people think
  • ; discussions on Vietnam; LBJ and Vietnam; incidents preceding and following Gulf of Tonkin incident; Robert McNamara; use of intelligence support
  • , and I was a speech writer and there wasn't anything much lower than a speech writer. (Laughter) But I have come on to much more exalted planes. Now, in this library there are some forty some million papers and they are very--I think Mr. [Robert "Bob
  • there. When you worked in the jungle, you had to put this, that, infiltration and all the rest, cutting off food and whatnot. I had a pretty good idea of what--and I knew [Sir Robert] Thompson down there, too, who set up their whole operation, came up
  • that there ought to be a study of the offices overseas. study. functio~ of cultural affairs The Brookings Institution was asked to perform this The State Department and I think the White House under the Kennedy Administration w"ere very interested
  • McGovern, and Robert McClory; Fulbright and the Fulbright Program; political pressures and the Board of Foreign Scholarships; the Sterling Tucker appointment; cultural exchange programs; cultural exchanges and the CIA; Anthony Solomon; Dean Rusk
  • Maxwell Taylor visited Vietnam in order to report to President Kennedy just a few months before you were assigned to Saigon. Did you have a chance to talk to him on his way back? H: Well, yes, we had him out to dinner, as a matter of fact, and he didn't
  • TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] atmosphere. More on LBJ Library oral histories: http://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh And you know there's that famous quote of Kennedy putting more weight on the New York Times
  • know, counterinsurgency was stylish, and Brute [Victor] Krulak, the marine, had a similar position on the Joint Staff. Same one I had much later. So the army was very anxious to get in the act and do the right things, and the Kennedys were pressing hard
  • of peopl e. Two peopl e who worked on the Hill supposedly informed LBJ of it, Bob Jackson and Arthur Perry, I think. Did you ever talk to them about it? C: No. G: How about Dr. Bob Montgomery, Robert Montgomery, an economics professor at the University
  • of thing that he and I would talk about. He never asked my advice on policy. Hell, he had four- star generals, and had [Robert] McNamara and later--what's his name?-Clark Clifford came in as secretary of defense. that he asked for advice about policy
  • ://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh 6 K: I suppose when they sent the bill up. M: Did you have any conversations before that? K: No. M: I believe, and please correct me if I am mistaken-- K: We were, by the way, never able to get President Kennedy's
  • histories: http://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh 11 and in Mr. Kennedy's Administration--has the force expanded too much and are we returning to smaller deployment of special forces groups? R: I don't think there has been a significant change
  • ; Detroit riots; Robert McNamara; Clark Clifford; cost effectiveness; role of service secretaries
  • . It was for one of his periodic visits. I think he was with [Robert] McNamara on that particular visit. And as was the custom--I'd done this in the past with Bob Manning and others who came out--I got some of the key press together with him. It was supposed
  • Civil Rights Bill of 1964; LBJ calls Pickle to commend him on his vote; Pickle votes against open housing; Pickle as "President Johnson's Congressman;" Robert Poage and Williamson County; regrets voting against open housing; LBJ, Yarborough
  • don't need to do more than sort of place it as part of the backdrop, because this stuff was going up all the time in draft form, but this was typical of President Johnson's period as of President Kennedy's before it--that a great deal of the most
  • meant Kennedy. When he talked about his conversation with Dean, you knew it was Rusk. When he talked about anybody in any position at all, he used nicknames and first names, and I think he had the chief justice of the Supreme Court that came out
  • became president, Lord only knows what sort of commitments he knew of that we, the public, had no idea about, as a carryover from John F. Kennedy. But he must have had some. He certainly didn't feel free to clean his house and start over with his own
  • vantage point there . O: The 1960 convention, of course, was held in Los Angeles . I was a delegate to the convention from Massachusetts as a delegate for Jack Kennedy . campaign . I had been an advance man on the Kennedy came out with a real
  • 1960 election; the Kennedys; relationship with LBJ; Massachusetts politics; Vietnam War; comparison of JFK and LBJ; Education bill; LBJ's persuasive ability
  • stockpile, and President Kennedy had asked the Senate to have an investigation, specifically he had asked Symington who was chairman of the Stockpile Subcommittee of the Senate Armed Services Committee. Symington asked Kennedy to send someone up
  • for LBJ; comparison of the White House social life of the Kennedys and the Johnsons; Kappel Commission and reorganization of the Post Office; defection of top level appointees regarding Vietnam policy; Larry O’Brien’s opposition to Vietnam policy
  • the election of 1960, when all four of us went into the government. F: Yes. M: So I became involved in politics really through Governor Stevenson, and then to the Kennedys. F: How far back does you acquaintance with--I don't know which title to give him
  • Biographical information; meeting LBJ in 1955 on a visit to the Ranch; 1956 Democratic Convention; Stevenson/Kennedy campaign; Democratic Advisory Committee; 1960 convention and Stevenson’s hope for nomination; JFK’s consultation with Stevenson
  • . Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] More on LBJ Library oral histories: http://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh L. Marks--II--5 The bill passed the House, and President Kennedy signed it into law. ceremony. I was privileged to be invited
  • President Eisenhower. Presi- dent Kennedy recalled you to active duty in 1961, and you served as the military representative to the President. From '62 to '64, you were Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff; from 1964 to 1965, Ambassador to Vietnam
  • Carolina during his campaign for the PreSidency after he succeeded President Kennedy. Now I had been in his company a number of times with the North Carolina delegation, I think. We had conferred with him in con- nection with some matters affecting