First knowledge of pending legislation to fight poverty; personal interest in and involvement in legislation of this kind; LBJ and unemployment; War on Poverty; steering legislation through committee; Adam Clayton Powell as chairman; LBJ's leadership with legislation; the Community Action Program; the church-state issue; the Appalachian program; the Job Corps; Edith Green; Sargent Shriver; LBJ steers bill through Rules Committee; Perkins' election as chairman of the House Education and Labor Committee; keeping the votes; spinning off programs to established agencies; the Green amendment; Dominick amendment; chance for such a program today; impact of War on Poverty on Perkins' district.