Oral history transcript, Charles J. Zwick, interview 2 (II), 8/1/1969, by David G. McComb

Impact of the Vietnam War on the budget; the surcharge issue; the Ways and Means Committee demands a budget cut; Congressman Tom Curtis; Wilbur Mills and George Mahon work out a compromise with LBJ, Fowler, and Zwick; Wilbur Mills evaluated; budget involvement in air pollution and water quality programs; the ESEA; Model Cities; the JOBS program; LBJ has misgivings about food programs; the social security expansion; the librarians' lobby; the growing public role of the budget director; the controversy over PPBS; J. Edgar Hoover; LBJ evaluated in some detail; the Labor Department reorganization infuriates LBJ; LBJ characterized as to temper, language, schedule, intelligence, energy, vigor; Califano, McPherson, Levinson, Cater evaluated; the RMN transition.